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Posted by: JJ | December 19, 2008 at 08:05 PM
The Fifth Circuit made an unreasonable and idiotic ruling? I, for one, am shocked.
Posted by: dave | December 20, 2008 at 01:05 AM
Thank god the 5th Circuit is here to save us from the "tyranny of literalness." Otherwise, the court might have had to admit what everyone working in the field knows: that BAPCPA was drafted by lobbyist hacks, not Congress, and, as a result, as one of the most poorly drafted statutes out there, it is certainly capable of being unconstitutionally overbroad.
I'll be interested to see how trustees and judges in the 5th determine whether future instances of such attorney speech is or is not given "in contemplation of" "abusing" the bankruptcy system. My guess is, if the judge or trustee is pro-creditor by habit, they'll magically find that debtors and their attorneys were contemplating "abuse."
Posted by: John Hilla | December 20, 2008 at 08:52 AM
Man, that sucks! The 5th is ours.
For jj: The BK laws passed in 05 had a provision in there that prohibited attorneys from advising their clients in a certain way. ie. to advise clients to buy a newer more reliable vehicle before they file bk because afterwards getting credit would be harder to get. No harm would come to the new car creditor in bk and in chapter 13 bankruptcy would actually be beneficial to all unsecured creditors because the debtor would have a more relievable vehicle to get to and from work. Debtor works, unsecured debts get paid in at a higher percentage. The old car creditor would be stuck with a surrendered vehicle probably backwards in value (the reason for all of the lobbing effort by the car creditors lobby).
THE FIGHT: (was and is) that advise by an attorney to his or her client is protected speech via 1st amendment (right to free speech) and (attorney client privilege) The 7th and 5th court of federal appeals has said in essence that the bk "provision" did not violate the 1st amendment to the constitution…… “too much”… to me it’s the “1st Amendment” for a reason.
Posted by: Patches | December 20, 2008 at 01:19 PM
I am writing a law review article on this issue (that has obviously been upset by this opinion). Is there anyone who has access to information on the 9th Circuit's review of 526(a)4? I understand it is sitting before them. Thanks!
Posted by: Sara | January 02, 2009 at 10:50 AM